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5 Tips for Becoming Licensed to Practice Law in Multiple States

Many states make it difficult for out-of-state lawyers from state-accredited law schools to be admitted to practice. The Colleges of Law alumnus Daniel Knight reveals how he became barred in six states (and counting).

Like many graduates of The Colleges of Law, Daniel Knight, J.D., had built a life and career before he ever applied to law school. He started a construction company shortly after high school, and, while he was running that business, he earned undergraduate and graduate degrees in accounting before enrolling at The Colleges of Law.

Upon graduation, Knight realized he could not support his family on an associate’s pay, so he hung up his shingle. “I think I had my bar number for about four days before I filed my first lawsuit,” Knight says.

After five years of practicing law, Knight and his wife took a trip to Maui. It inspired him to look into the rules for practicing law in Hawaii, which stated that the applicant must be a graduate of an American Bar Association-accredited school. That might have been the end of the story, but Knight noticed there was another option that said an applicant could become eligible if they “demonstrate the active practice of law.”  

It was the pursuit of this second option that began Knight’s quest to become barred in six states (and counting). Over the course of his efforts, he learned a great deal about the process, how states are similar and how they are different in admitting lawyers from other states to their bar. (For more on the differences in practicing in other states with an ABA-accredited degree as opposed to a state-accredited school, read “ABA vs. Cal Bar schools: What’s the difference?”)

Daniel Knight’s Tips for Becoming Barred to Practice Law in Multiple States

Tip 1: Ask why not

As Knight began his effort in each state, he asked himself why anyone should refuse to accept him to the bar when he had demonstrated that he has all the necessary qualifications.

Having graduated from a state-accredited institution, Knight has had Harvard Law School and Yale Law School graduates look down their noses at him but then lose to him in court, so he proved that he was qualified and skilled enough to practice anywhere.

To make a successful case to practice law in a different state, lawyers should be responsive to the bar analysts in each state with requests for documentation, which might include driving records, credit reports, and caption sheets.

Tip 2: Accrue documented time practicing law as soon and as often as possible.

One of the most valuable points in support of Knight’s effort to be admitted to other state bars was his documented accrued practice time. He went into private practice straight out of law school and demonstrated through caption sheets the cases he had argued in court.

“I didn’t know at the time how important it would be to have an active practice of law that was documented,” Knight says. “I found that no matter how many times I’ve been told no, when they learn I’ve been practicing successfully in California, which has one of the highest bar cut scores in the country, they suddenly stopped worrying as much about their rules.”

Tip 3: Ask to speak to the boss.

When Knight contacted the Hawaii bar association saying he would like to take advantage of their practice exemption, the analyst told him he had to be a graduate of an ABA-accredited school. Instead of backing down, Knight asked the analyst for their boss’s email. The boss told Knight that indeed there is a provision, rarely exercised, for a practice equivalency.

Knight says he realized early that some who work in state bar offices find it much easier to send back a quick answer that sounds good and doesn’t require any research. “The first time you get told no, do not stop,” he says. “Every state that I’ve gone into, they’ve told me that it was not possible.”

Tip 4: Learn the rules and take advantage of what you learn.

Knight says that often the states’ analysts don’t even know the rules for barring lawyers from out of state. Through time and effort, Knight learned that each state has different procedures, and all of them require a lot of documentation. However, much of what the states require is very similar, and each state’s bar exam, as well as the Uniform Bar Exam, is only slightly different from another.

After he submitted all the necessary paperwork to the Hawaii State Bar Association, the analyst handling his case told him, “We’ll see if we’re going to accept this,” to which Knight replied, “You will accept it,” pointing out the HBSA’s own rule on the matter.

Tip 5: Be polite but persistent.

After applying in Texas and not hearing back for several months, Knight sent an email to the State Bar of Texas saying, “I don’t mean to pester you, but is there someone who can review my application?” A short time later, a Texas state official replied, apologizing to Knight for not getting back to him sooner and telling him he was approved.

Knight says there’s a fine art of not pestering bar analysts enough to anger them but also making a point of checking in, because sometimes they do forget about you.

Thanks to his efforts, Knight has a thriving law practice with offices in California, Hawaii, and Texas. The process of pursuing bar admission taught Knight valuable lessons about his own abilities as a lawyer and how his practice appears to bar analysts in each of the states he approached. Any lawyer who seeks to practice in other states will find Knight’s experience a valuable road map to follow. Those who are not should recognize the value in making sure all their records and accounting are current should they wish to take such a step in the future.

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The Colleges of Law Works to Bend California’s Diversity Curve Upward

Despite efforts to diversify the legal profession, there is much work left to do.

The results of the State Bar of California’s report on Diversity of 2022 California Licensed Attorneys were stark but not surprising. The survey showed that white people made up 39% of California, but two-thirds of the almost 200,000 licensed attorneys in the state are white. Conversely, Latinos make up 36% of the state’s population but only 6% of its attorneys..

Since its founding in 1969, The Colleges of Law has made inroads toward diversity. “Our college was started specifically to serve working adults,” says Dean Jackie Gardina, J.D. “The evening hours made it possible for working women or women who were primary caretakers of children to attend law school. Now those women are in positions of power. They’re judges; they’re elected officials.”

With the creation of the first hybrid J.D. program in California, The Colleges of Law further broke down geographic barriers to attendance. Within California, the African American population is 6%, but within the Hybrid J.D. program, it’s 12%. Dean Andrea Funk says, “I have been in legal education for 26 years and have never seen the kind of diversity that we have in the Hybrid J.D. program.”  

The Colleges of Law’s efforts to enroll women of color align with efforts by the State Bar of California to diversify the legal profession. Expanding the geographic boundaries of access and affordability to a broader range of people allows African American women from across California to access legal education more easily. And these efforts have gained statewide recognition, as the college has been selected as a DEI Leadership Seal Silver tier recipient in the first cohort of the state bar’s DEI Leadership Seal program for its efforts to advance diversity, equity, and inclusion in the workplace and in the legal profession.

Cal Bar DEI seal

A common theme among current students and recent graduates of the Hybrid J.D. program who are women of color is that many came from the professional realm after deciding to pursue law degrees to enhance what they were already doing professionally.

Why the law as a profession?

When she was 4 years old, Nicole Wilson told her father that she wanted to be an attorney “to help people,” even though she didn’t know what an attorney does. In high school, Wilson was on the speech and debate team and the mock trial team, and she took classes toward a legal certificate. She planned to go to law schooI and even worked a series of jobs in law-related fields, but it wasn’t until she was pursuing a master’s degree in educational leadership and policy studies that she realized she could marry her love of higher education with her love of the law by augmenting her professional training and experience.

Nicole Wilson headshot
Nicole Wilson

Erica Lemon, J.D., was well established in her professional career. Based in Dallas, Texas, she works with Veterans Administration and Department of Defense hospitals in 16 states. Following the murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis police and the subsequent protests and calls for justice, she felt compelled to do more and looked to the legal field as an effective area to make an impact. However, her work required her to travel four days a week, making a commitment to an in-person law school difficult.

Janine Mitchell, J.D., intended to pursue a career in broadcast journalism until she took a criminal justice class in college and fell in love with the law. She wanted to go to law school but had her first daughter during her sophomore year. Mitchell became a paralegal instead. She still intended to go to law school, but most of the programs were not designed for students who work full-time and are single parents.

Why a hybrid J.D.?

Being able to study during the week at her own pace and then travel to Ventura once a month to have the in-class experience and in-person access to teachers and fellow students worked well for Wilson. “The program has far exceeded my expectations,” she says.

Even during the COVID-19 pandemic, when in-person residencies ceased and courses were held via Zoom, Wilson, as a young mother, appreciated the ease of working from home. “The benefit of a hybrid program is that you are able to do your work throughout the week at your own pace. Additionally, you have access to your professors online, while also having a classroom experience, once a month. Having multiple ways of access is important,” she says.

When Lemon learned The Colleges of Law Hybrid J.D. program combined remote course work with visits to the Ventura campus four weekends per term, she saw an opportunity. “I travel to California frequently for work,” Lemon said, “so getting there wasn’t hard.”

Erika Lemon, J.D. in graduation gown
Erika Lemon, J.D.

Because of COVID-19, she was unable to travel to The Colleges of Law during her first years of the program, but when she did, she found a diverse population. In addition to the significant presence of Latino students, Lemon says she remembers about 10 Black students. “It sure was a lot different from the pictures on the wall,” she said of the portraits that adorn the hallways of professors and presidents of the college in previous generations.

For Mitchell, the goal was to find a program that would allow her to raise her daughter and continue to work full-time. “I stumbled upon The Colleges of Law Hybrid program,” she says. “It really impressed me that they considered nontraditional students in creating the program. I applied for the program and was fortunately accepted.”

 Challenges for women of color

To counter the discrimination that women of color experience, Wilson is proactive about identifying mentors. “If there are a lot of closed doors that you’re encountering, all you need is one open door,” she says. “I’ve been able to find people that advocate for me and that have been able to mentor me, whether it’s my workplace or at The Colleges of Law,”

As her knowledge of the law expanded through her studies, Lemon learned that that injustice toward people of color extends beyond policing and the criminal justice system. “There are also issues surrounding property, the lack of estate planning and wills,” she says.

Mitchell says she still gets comments like, “Oh, are you the paralegal? Are you the assistant?” She spent three weeks at a trial in San Bernardino County and didn’t see a lot of people who looked like her. “There is pressure to exceed expectations for myself just to show I belong here,” she says.

She currently works at a law firm founded primarily by African American attorneys, some of whom later became judges. “There are people that look like me in this field, and there’s this program that’s accessible for me as a non-traditional student,” Mitchell says. “Both of those two factors played into my decision to choose The Colleges of Law.”

Opportunities for those who are entering the field

“I’ve been fortunate at the firm that I’m with,” Mitchell says. “I had worked for them as a paralegal in the past. Less than two months into my practice, I tried a case. We practice elder abuse and neglect cases, and not many firms do that on the plaintiff’s side. It’s a very specialized area of law. I see myself really just growing here, continuing to try cases, and becoming just a great trial attorney.”

Janine Mitchell, J.D., being admitted to the bar.
Janine Mitchell, J.D.

Wilson is interested in pursuing educational law and corporate law after she graduates. In the meantime, she wishes to pay forward the benefits she’s received from those who have helped her. “I’m passionate about student success, ” she says, “so I am going to be a mentor starting in the fall for incoming 1Ls.”

Advice for aspiring lawyers

“My advice would be to just get involved in any way you can,” Mitchell says. “Put yourself out there. Don’t feel that just because not a lot of people look like you and your surroundings that you kind of have to keep to yourself. Become involved in as many activities as you can, push yourself as far as trying to get internships, externships, and networking. Put yourself out there and know that you’re good enough, you belong here.”

While she was attending The Colleges of Law, Lemon was among those pressing the faculty and administration to better support students in preparing for the bar exam. Many of their recommendations were adopted. Lemon says preparing for the bar exam is key, and she urges students to take advantage of the bar exam prep app AdaptiBar, visit BarEssays.com to review essays written for past bar exams, and take as many practice tests as possible.

Wilson stresses the importance of mentors. “If you have an area of law that you’re interested in, find someone who can mentor you. In my experience, attorneys are looking for someone to mentor,” she says. “If you’re not sure what area of law you are interested in, do an internship, volunteer, expose yourself to different types of law, so you can figure out what area you’re interested in practicing. Find someone that you can emulate and that can walk beside you in the journey, because you will face obstacles. You will face barriers, but that doesn’t have to stop you.”

Can I Practice Law with a Master of Arts in Law Degree?

While a Master of Arts in Law degree does not allow you to practice law, it can open doors to emerging career avenues and opportunities.

Prospective students seeking the right legal education for them frequently ask, “Can I practice law with a Master of Arts in Law degree?” The short answer is no. To practice law, you must receive a juris doctor (J.D.) degree and pass a state bar exam. However, there are a range of roles in the workplace suited for those with legal training who are not practicing lawyers. For example, many J.D. recipients go on to successful careers without ever taking the bar exam, and Master of Arts in Law graduates can work in a variety of professions in which their legal expertise can enhance their value in new or existing roles; Master of Arts in Law degree-holders will be eligible for many of these roles as well.

Candidates for a Master of Arts in Law (M.A. in Law) degree take law school classes from professors at The Colleges of Law who are leaders in the field, and they can customize their curriculum to suit their areas of interest. The four concentrations are Business Operations, Entrepreneurship, Emerging Law, and Technology. Depending on each student’s choice of specialization, popular professions for Master of Arts in Law graduates include:

Compliance. The field involves guiding businesses so they may adhere to their industry or organization’s laws, policies, and regulations. The need has been growing among American companies with operations abroad and foreign companies doing business in the U.S. as well as domestic companies.

Data Privacy and Security. With people conducting an increasing amount of their financial, medical, and educational activity online, the handling of sensitive data, including personal information, is of great and growing importance, especially when it comes to meeting regulatory requirements and protecting confidentiality. Tech-savvy M.A. in Law degree holders are well-suited for this environment.

Legal Operations. Project management and customer service roles that are common in business are less prevalent in the law. Legal operations professionals enable legal departments to serve their clients more effectively by applying business and technical practices to the delivery of legal services. These operations include customer service, knowledge management, data analysis—anything that improves efficiency, productivity, and profitability.

Legal Entrepreneur. Independent businesspeople with an eye for new trends can pair their legal knowledge with their passion for identifying and capitalizing upon business models in response to market opportunities. A leading trend in this area is the development of software tools such as A2J Author, which provides access to justice for self-representing litigants by enabling lawyers and law students to build user-friendly, web-based tools for creating legal documents.

Legal Technology and eDiscovery. The legal industry is modernizing in leaps and bounds regarding the use of software and technology for assistance with legal projects and tasks to support the legal industry. In this arena, an M.A. in Law graduate with a background in software development can thrive.

Electronic discovery (often called eDiscovery) refers to the practice of digitally identifying, collecting, and producing electronically stored information (ESI) in response to a request for production in a lawsuit or investigation. The ABA’s Center for Innovation has identified three specific areas of focus: cybersecurity, client communications, and process and workflow. These are all areas where M.A. in Law graduates can add value to a law firm.

The chief advantage of the M.A. in Law is the flexibility it offers. If you are looking to round out your professional profile with a legal background or you are a lifelong learner who has always had an interest in the law, The Colleges of Law Master of Arts in Law may well be the advanced degree that suits your personal and career objectives.

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An Innovative Legal Degree for a Changing Professional Landscape

This online legal studies degree program offers an opportunity for those with an interest in law related careers to gain a solid footing in the field.

Until recently, anyone interested in pursuing a career in law had to follow a fairly narrow path. The steps commonly included undergraduate courses designated for a pre-law concentration, followed by three years of law school, months of studying for the bar exam, and ultimately a career as an attorney. Today, the expansion of technology and changing workforce realities are creating new opportunities, and the need for workers with a more diversified understanding of the law is growing. New online legal studies degree programs are helping to meet the demand, including the Master of Arts in Law offered by The Colleges of Law.

Aware of changes in the profession, The Colleges of Law administrators and faculty have been at the forefront in rethinking the conventional approach to law school. For example, The Colleges of Law has made the Juris Doctor (J.D.) available through a hybrid format in which students complete most of their program online and come to campus for monthly in-person seminars during the term. In addition, the college has hosted seminars educating students on the growing demand for workers with the “J.D. advantage”—candidates who have a J.D. but have yet to take, or do not wish to take, the bar exam.

An online legal studies degree program that meets today’s needs

The most recent innovation from The Colleges of Law is the Master of Arts in Law. This fully online legal studies degree program does not qualify graduates to sit for the bar exam, but it does allow students to match courses to their career interests and earn a degree in two years that prepares them for a range of professions or another advanced degree. While online legal studies degree programs are relatively new, this option is particularly attractive to three types of students: those who plan to use the degree as their primary credential in a range of fields; those who hold another advanced degree; and lifelong learners seeking to expand their knowledge in new areas.

Possible outcomes for Master of Arts in Law degree holders

For those who pursue a Master of Arts in Law degree to advance their career, The Colleges of Law’s online degree program allows students to choose courses from several specializations, including business operations, entrepreneurship, legal operations, and technology. This flexibility makes it possible to stack and customize courses to match specific interests. Below are examples of fields that attract Master of Arts in Law degree holders.

Compliance

Every business and organization must operate under a range of federal, state, and sometimes international laws and regulations. Compliance involves providing guidance to businesses so they may adhere to the laws, policies, and regulations that govern their industry or organization.

Data privacy, security, and information governance

Data privacy concerns the handling of sensitive data—including personal information—to meet regulatory requirements while protecting confidentiality and immutability. Information management and governance focuses on business data and data quality, assuring proper valuation, creation, consumption, and control of information and analytics. Maintaining these processes is a team effort, and a legal expert can play an important part in this collaboration.

Legal operations

Legal operations professionals enable legal departments to serve their clients more effectively by applying business and technical practices to the delivery of legal services. This is an area that law firms have traditionally not prioritized but doing so improves workflow and can increase profits.

Legal entrepreneur

Legal entrepreneurs apply their knowledge of the legal industry to develop new business models to take advantage of market opportunities. For example, the development of legal technology, including software and technology to assist with legal projects and tasks, is a growth field that will revolutionize the delivery of legal services.

eDiscovery

Electronic discovery—sometimes called eDiscovery—is the electronic aspect of identifying, collecting, and producing electronically stored information (ESI) in response to a request for production in a lawsuit or investigation. This is also a growth area as databases continue to expand and the laws governing access and disclosure evolve.

The training and knowledge gained in an online legal studies degree program like the Master of Arts in Law could lead to prestigious and lucrative positions within these industries. In fact, alumni of The Colleges of Law are currently working in roles with titles that include: 

  • Director of legal operations
  • Director of data security policy
  • Law firm technology manager
  • Data governance officer
  • Legal HR specialist

An enhancement for advanced degree holders

For professionals who have earned advanced degrees (such as a Master of Business Administration, Doctor of Psychology, Master of Social Work, or Master of Science in Computer Engineering) and are working in highly specialized fields, the Master of Arts in Law provides the expertise and authority to address legal issues that arise in the work setting. This is particularly true for entrepreneurs who want to stand out from competitors and whose work involves legal issues. A knowledge of patent law, for instance, would be beneficial to those developing new products.

Degree holders may also have opportunities to write articles on topics of interest for peer publications, magazines and professional journals, or for a general audience. A grounding in the law in addition to a deep understanding of the field can help establish the writer as a subject matter expert in their respective field. Because the Master of Arts in Law degree is an online legal studies degree program, professionals who are already established in their careers can take courses from wherever they live without uprooting their lives.

A lifelong pursuit of knowledge

There are also people who are always motivated to learn new things. It is this drive that leads to unexpected and inspiring career changes and to innovative outside-the-box thinking in an organization. For these lifetime learners, three years of law school may be more of a commitment than they are willing to make, but a two-year Master of Arts in Law program can provide them with the understanding of the law thy are seeking. And the fact that they can receive this training through an online legal studies program makes this option even more attractive.

Real law classes taught by practicing lawyers

Students who enroll in the Master of Arts in Law program will be taking the same courses as our J.D. candidates, taught by experienced legal educators who are active contributors to the legal world, including practicing judges, lawyers, and elected officials. Through this innovative online legal studies degree program, students develop the practical and theoretical skills necessary to succeed in today’s vibrant legal field.

The Colleges of Law is committed to the principle that the legal profession should reflect the diversity of the clients and communities it serves. The Master of Arts in Law program embodies that objective by helping to make legal education available to a broader segment of the population. Learning and working together in a higher education environment that encourages discussion and collaboration will inspire students to develop the skills, insights, and empathy needed to thrive in an ever-changing legal environment.

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Dean Gardina Takes to the Audio Waves

SideBar, a new podcast, seeks to alert listeners to challenges to their rights and freedoms.

SideBar is a new podcast that focuses on topics related to individual and constitutional rights. Hosted by Jackie Gardina, J.D., Ed.D., dean of The Colleges of Law, and Mitchel Winick, J.D., dean of Monterey College, the episodes will feature discussions with local, state, and national experts on existing or emerging threats to our most critical rights and will post on the first and third Saturdays of each month. The discussions are aimed at a general audience avoiding technical jargon and obscure legal references, and each episode is accompanied by a reading list that includes articles and books penned by podcast guests.

The first two episodes of the podcast feature a conversation with lawyer and author David Pepper who, in his recent book, “Laboratories of Autocracy: A Wake-up Call from Behind the Lines,” argues that an attack on democracy is happening institutionally at the statehouse level. Over the last few years, Pepper has been disturbed by what he sees as antidemocratic steps taken by Republican legislators in his native state of Ohio to gain an unfair advantage over Democrats.

In her opening to the first episode of Sidebar, Gardina explains that Pepper’s book sounds an alarm about important trends, especially during the 2022 election season, which is why she chose this topic to kick off the podcast. Particularly troubling, Pepper points out, is that the actions of Ohio lawmakers are occurring largely out of the public eye. Most people are unaware of the proceedings of their state legislatures (partly because of reduced local news providers), and even Ohioans who are aware of the developments in their state might not know what’s going on elsewhere. Yet, actions taken in one state could change the outcome of a close presidential election.

Upcoming episodes of SideBar will spotlight other areas of conflict between states and the federal government. Rutgers law professor David Noll discusses how some states are seeking to forestall federal regulation, and California Assemblywoman Buffy Wicks outlines the California Legislature’s response to the Supreme Court’s decision in the Dobbs case. Other guests will include prominent national legal voices such as Dahlia Lithwick, author of “Lady Justice: Women, the Law, and the Battle to Save America,” and Suzanne Nossel, CEO of PEN America, a leading advocate for human rights and freedom of expression.

Throughout her career as a legal scholar and as dean of The Colleges of Law, Gardina has sought ways to make a legal education more affordable and legal services more accessible. Toward this goal she has supported the development of the Hybrid J.D. program and the Master of Arts in Law program at The Colleges of Law. SideBar, which is cosponsored by The Colleges of Law, offers an opportunity for an audience outside the legal profession to learn more about trends in the law that will affect them.

Listen to the SideBar podcast using the player below.

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Jobs for J.D.s That Don’t Require The Bar Exam

Three recent law school graduates describe the wide range of opportunities available to J.D.s who do not take the bar exam

Last updated: September 20, 2023

Unlocking New Opportunities for J.D. Graduates Who Haven’t Passed the Bar Exam

In a well-attended talk at The Colleges of Law titled “Alternate Paths for the J.D.,” three recent J.D. graduates described how they found rewarding and fulfilling law degree jobs without passing the bar exam.

In her introduction to the event, Jackie Gardina, J.D., dean of The Colleges of Law, pointed to a report commissioned by the state Bar of California that concluded, “The business of law is growing, but the practice of law is shrinking.” With this new reality in mind, the panel of law school administrators, law professors, and recent graduates discussed the broad range of opportunities for job seekers who have received their J.D. degree but have not—or not yet—passed the bar exam.

Panelist Irene Mo was interested in data security during her time in law school. When she received her degree, she was thorough and strategic in her job search. She credits one piece of advice that helped her sort it all out. “I was told ‘It’s not about taking the best next step; it’s about taking the next best step”.

Mo ultimately realized that passing the bar and practicing law in a courtroom were reflections of ego and didn’t really pertain to her career objectives in the growing field of “legal tech” in which many jobs are designated as “J.D. preferred” but don’t require applicants to have passed the bar exam.

“If you don’t want to practice, I don’t think you need to put yourself through that pain,” she says. For example, she points that the pandemic triggered a sea change in the treatment of legal paperwork. “A lot of people are still printing out a ton of documents, and COVID forced people to move into this virtual world. Before, most people were still practicing law like they were 300 years ago.”

Exploring Opportunities for J.D. Graduates Awaiting the Bar Exam

Another panelist, Brian Dunn, found himself in a position that is common to many law school graduates. Having to wait for nearly a year to prepare for and take the bar exam when it was offered, Dunn looked for law degree jobs without passing the bar and found a position reviewing contracts for a financial services firm. There, he found the flexibility to reimagine their contracting process and appreciates the central role he plays on a larger team. Like Mo, his training in legal technologies in law school helped prepare him for his role, which involves the relatively new field of eDiscovery.

The third panelist, Brittney Martinez, also encountered scheduling issues with the bar exam, largely due to COVID-related cancellations. She found a fulfilling role with no bar exam requirement which involved decoding federal, state, and local regulations for an international company. The position has given her the opportunity to travel abroad but also allows her to remain in Texas rather than move to the company’s U.S. headquarters in New York.

“I recently have been given the opportunity to take on the Latin American sector of the company, which is a huge project with 11 countries,” she says, “because I’ve been able to invest in the company and understand how the processes work.”

The panelists stressed the traditional view of the lawyer who strives to graduate at the top of their class, passes the bar on their first try, and spends their career litigating cases in a courtroom is changing. Now, there are plenty of jobs for J.D.s not practicing law. “I was a very mediocre law student,” Mo says. “And personally, I think I’m doing great now, and living the life I want to live, doing the kind of work I want to do.”

Dunn urges prospective J.D.s to “never forget you have a law degree and you’ve spent a great deal of your time and effort getting to where you are.”

Key Advice for New J.D.s Exploring Non-Bar-Exam Paths

Other key pieces of advice the panel imparted to the students included:

Be flexible

Less than ideal positions taken fresh out of law school may lead to bigger, better opportunities later on.

Mo says, “When I was about to graduate and I was looking for a job, I was like, ‘If it has the word legal in it and you’re going to give me a good job reference, I’ll take it.’ Legal Shoe Shiner, I’m your girl. I just want a job after I graduate.”

Expand your horizons

If you are taking a nontraditional career path after receiving your J.D., then many opportunities may not be in your original search parameters for J.D.-advantage jobs.

Martinez suggests looking at international opportunities. “Foreign companies looking to expand in the U.S. view the J.D. degree differently,” she says, “and they need people with a law background to help them understand the legal environment.”

Use your networks.

When you’re dealing with a specialized skill set, professional networks can be even more important than the job-seeking public at large.

Dunn stresses the importance of both his undergraduate and law school networks. Martinez has received offers for in-house positions through work she has done as an independent consultant, and Mo says she is “three for three on getting jobs through my Twitter connections.”

High-Paying Jobs for J.D.s Not Practicing Law

There are a number of in-demand Juris Doctorate jobs that offer substantial salaries for those with a law degree without passing the bar. 

Compliance Officer

Compliance officers ensure that their organizations follow regulations and laws. They work to prevent legal issues by developing and implementing compliance programs. 

How much do Compliance Officers make?

The average salary for a compliance officer falls between $75,600 and $114,000 according to Salary.com.*

*Data collected in 2023.

Corporate Counsel

Many large corporations employ in-house legal counsel to handle a variety of legal matters related to their business operations. Corporate counsel often work on contracts, negotiations, and legal strategy. 

How much does corporate counsel make?

ZiprRecruiter reports that the majority of corporate counsel salaries currently range between $118,000 to $168,000.*

*Data collected in 2023.

Intellectual Property (IP) Manager

IP managers oversee a company’s intellectual property portfolio, which includes patents, trademarks, copyrights, and trade secrets. They help protect the company’s IP assets and ensure compliance with relevant laws. Salaries can be substantial, particularly in industries that heavily rely on IP, such as technology and pharmaceuticals. 

How much do intellectual property (IP) managers make?

According to the Economic Research institute, the average pay for an intellectual property manager is $84,316 a year.*

*Data collected in 2023.

Risk Manager

Risk managers assess and mitigate potential risks that could impact an organization’s operations, reputation, or financial stability. They work to prevent legal issues by identifying and managing potential threats. 

How much do risk managers make?

Risk managers can make $100,231 a year on average according to Indeed.*

*Data collected in 2023.

Some JD holders work as legal consultants, providing expertise to businesses, individuals, or government agencies on legal matters. They may offer guidance on complex legal issues, regulatory compliance, or strategic decision-making. 

Zippia reports that the average legal consultant salary in the United States is $75,024.*

*Data collected in 2023.

Mediator/Arbitrator

Mediators and arbitrators help parties resolve disputes outside of court. They facilitate negotiations and help parties reach agreements. While salaries can vary, those with expertise in specific industries or complex disputes can command higher fees.

Legal analyst in finance/investment banking: Some JD holders work in financial institutions or investment banks, analyzing legal documents related to mergers, acquisitions, contracts, and other financial transactions. 

How much do mediators/arbitrators make?

The Bureau of Labor Statistics found the average salary for mediators and arbitrators to be $98,920.*

*Data collected in 2023.

Embracing Change: The Future of J.D. Careers

Events such as the Alternative to the J.D. underscore the importance that law schools keep up with the times. Technological innovation, changing demographic, and a changing economy are asserting pressure against a profession that has long rested on tradition. The lessons behind the ongoing efforts at The Colleges of Law to modernize the curriculum and expose graduates to a broader range of career options reflect the belief that legal professionals cannot merely let changes in the field happen to them. They must constantly think, plan, and innovate to keep up with and, ideally, get ahead of the disruptions to the profession that continue to come.

To learn more about The Colleges of Laws innovative course offerings such as Constitutional Law, Contracts, Torts, Criminal Law, and Property Law, fill out the form below. You can also watch our informative session hosted by our enrollment counselor, Shannon Stark, to learn more about our in person J.D. programs.

Lawyer Wellness: Shifting the Lawyering Paradigm

A professor at The Colleges of Law has created a comprehensive course in lawyer wellness that she hopes to be at the forefront of a movement.

Robin Oaks, professor at The Colleges of Law, recently taught a new course aimed at changing the way attorneys approach the profession, as well as their daily lives.

“Wellness and Lawyering Competence” may be a relatively new idea in the legal profession but is one that is gaining acceptance.

In a field that requires a confident public posture and an air of certainty, some attorneys may be reluctant to admit that they need emotional support or self-care. This commitment to self-reliance often begins in law school, where cultural norms at many institutions favor competition over collaboration, a mindset that can continue into practice. Further complicating this reality is the stigma among attorneys, as is the case in many professions, about seeking emotional, physical, or cognitive support. The Colleges of Law, on the other hand, promotes collaboration over competition, and hopes to change the narrative surrounding mental health and wellness in the field.

The American Bar Association weighs in

Recognizing the challenges facing the profession, the American Bar Association (ABA) assigned a task force to address “Lawyer Well-Being.” Their report, issued in 2017, identified five areas of focus:

  • Understanding the role each of attorney can play in reducing the level of toxicity in the profession
  • Eliminating the stigma associated with seeking help
  • Emphasizing that well-being is an indispensable part of a lawyer’s duty of competence
  • Educating lawyers, judges, and law students on lawyer well-being issues
  • Taking positive steps to change how law is practiced and to instill greater well-being in the profession

While the ABA report focuses largely on mitigating the negative factors affecting lawyer well-being, Oaks sees her class as being about more than simply reducing stress. She believes the concept of well-being is a continuous process, one in which lawyers strive for thriving in all dimensions of their lives: occupational, intellectual, spiritual, physical, social, and emotional.

Changing the conversation

The ABA report findings and recommendations put the impetus on members of the legal profession to commit to the promotion of wellness, and forward-looking law schools, such as The Colleges of Law, are leading the way.

“I see it as part of creating a whole-lawyer paradigm,” Oaks says. “I designed this course to help law students function at their best with energy and peak performance as well as to promote wellness and foster well-being. It’s about re-envisioning what it means to be a competent legal professional.”

The insight Oaks has gained into wellness evolved out of her own health challenges. Fifteen years into her career as a litigator, she suffered from exposure to environmental toxins. Because her condition did not respond to conventional medicine, Oaks explored the latest research in neuroscience, medicine, and practices for promoting healing, wellness, and well-being. She also shifted her legal practice to focus on workplace mediations, conflict resolution, and workplace investigations, all while developing a parallel career path as a well-being coach for professionals.

The Colleges of Law embraces a comprehensive approach

When Oaks approached Jackie Gardina, dean of The Colleges of Law, about the course, she found an enthusiastic ally in the cause of lawyer well-being. Gardina agreed the time was right to add this elective course to the curriculum. “The Colleges of Law has been a leader,” Oaks says.

The course, consisting of 10, three-hour sessions, involved class discussion, weekly assignments focusing on evidence-based practices, landmark research on lawyer well-being, positive psychology, mindfulness practices, and financial well-being and competency. Several prominent lawyers spoke of the importance of wellness and fostering well-being for a successful, rewarding, and happy career.

Lawyer wellness is “imperative for the future of the profession”

The response from students was overwhelmingly positive. Several said the course changed their lives. “I only wish I had this my first year of law school. What a difference it would have a made,” one student says.

Many said they had their eyes opened to the prospects of this new paradigm. They explain that the course changed how they looked at stress and their responsibility to take charge of their mind, body, and cognitive wellness.

Another student points out that “there’s a stigma in the legal profession around self-help, but asking for help is essential to human growth. Law students are taught the tools of argument and persuasion, but they aren’t taught how to deal with their stress.”

The cohort agreed that courses devoted to attorney health should be a permanent in fixture in every law school. Another student says, “The fact that the legal profession is substantially suffering from a lack of wellness and competence makes requiring the class imperative for the future of the profession itself.”

Just how many schools do open their curricula to incorporate this subject matter remains to be seen, but the groundwork has been laid at The Colleges of Law for others to follow.

A path forward

“I designed and launched this course with the hope that it would not be about remembering information but about transformation,” Oaks says. “If it empowered, inspired, and opened minds to new possibilities that contribute to wellness and well-being for those on the journey of lawyering, I’m happy.”


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eLawyering: Apps for Justice

A new course at The Colleges of Law called eLawyering introduces students to the growing uses of technology in the practice of law to benefit both attorneys and clients.

eLawyering: A New Course for the Future of Law

According to The Santa Barbara & Ventura Colleges of Law Professor Jeannette Eicks, J.D., in roughly 70% of civil cases in the United States at least one party proceeds pro se, meaning they represent themselves in legal proceedings. This startling reality helped to inspire Professor Eicks to create a new elective course that offers law students insights into ways to improve the delivery of, and access to, legal services for a broader segment of the population through the use of technology. Called eLawyering, the course focuses on the intersection of the legal profession and technology in three areas: innovation, automation (including AI), and data.

For Professor Eicks, who is The Colleges of Law’s subject matter expert on technology and the law, the digital realm is an essential part of her background. “I started programming with my mother when I was 10,” she says, adding that she became a computer science professor after she graduated law school before moving back into the law field. Since then, she has blended the two disciplines. Eicks’ goal is not to introduce technology for its own sake. “My interest is in creating legal efficiency, enhancing legal services, and expanding access to justice,” she says.

Making the Case to the Change-averse

In a profession grounded in centuries of tradition and practice, pushback against innovation was inevitable. “There can be a lot of market pressure against lawyer efficiency because that means fewer billable hours,” Eicks explains. Also, the unauthorized practice of law is a challenge. For example, if an attorney only barred to practice in California creates an app, then only residents of California are authorized to use it.

“On the flip side,” Eicks says, “pressures from customers are driving lawyers toward efficiency.” And while some e-lawyering products, such as LegalZoom and Rocket Lawyer, are quite popular, there is a consensus that the profession is behind the curve. A recent study by the McKinsey Global Institute estimates that 23% of tasks currently performed by lawyers can be automated with current technology.

In order to illustrate the broader principles covered in the course, Eicks asked each student to create an app that accomplished a task they would perform as lawyers. “An important part of what we’re doing is learning to provide access to legal services and to drive down the cost of legal services,” Eicks says. Among the 38 students in the class, there was a range of proficiency in the development of their projects, though some were quite successful.

The students used a program called Afterpattern to develop their apps. Many students chose to design apps that perform what is commonly called “pre-law,” meaning that they help clients in advance of a filing or a court appearance to ensure they have all the necessary documentation. “Usually, there’s a lot of back and forth over missing documents,” Eicks says. “Whereas, if a client completes a form ahead of time with the assistance of an app and attach all the necessary documents, they’re ready to go when they walk into a law office.”

Student Brooke Darnall developed an app that walks users through advanced directives and durable health care power of attorney procedures. Darnall, a 3L, says, “I’ve never pictured myself in a traditional attorney role, but I entered law school knowing that I wanted to learn complex laws and policies in order to help translate them to the average person.” Having heard about the role of “legal knowledge engineer” for the first time in class, she now says, “Perhaps I can help to build AI systems that fulfill my goal of translating complex laws to average people and increase access to justice.”

Preparing Students to Practice

While Eicks understands that some lawyers have concerns about the effect of the broader adoption of technology, she hopes that the key takeaway from the eLawyering course is that law students understand that technology can be used to expand their legal practices, not reduce them. “I focus on preparing students for the practice of law in the future,” she says.

Eicks adds that Dean Jackie Gardena has been forward thinking when it comes to the promise of technology for the legal profession. Eicks credits The Colleges of Law for leading the way by bringing technology into the J.D. program.


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California Supreme Court appoints Dean Jackie Gardina to committee on California Bar Exam

Gardina, who has helped propel The Colleges of Law’s mission to make legal education more accessible, will sit on the committee to consider changes to the state exam.

Jackie Gardina, dean and chief academic officer at The Colleges of Law, has been appointed to the Supreme Court of California’s Blue Ribbon Commission on the Future of the California Bar Exam. Gardina, who is currently the chair of the Committee of State Bar Accredited and Registered Schools, will serve on the commission’s California Attorney Practice Analysis Working Group.

The 19-person commission will recommend “whether to adopt alternative or additional testing or tools to ensure minimum competence to practice law.” This area of discussion has gained urgency during the COVID-19 pandemic. The California Bar Exam was administered online for the first time in October 2020, and the next online exam is scheduled for July 2021.

In addition to improving access to the California Bar Exam, Gardina views this committee and other recent steps by the California Supreme Court as necessary but not yet sufficient enough to promote greater equity and diversity in the profession. In a recent article for the Santa Barbara County Bar Association, she wrote, “The current bar exam does more than limit access to the profession, it drives law school curriculum and supports a profit-driven commercial bar exam preparation industry.” She goes on to say, “Yet, law schools spend an inordinate amount of time helping students gain the test-taking skills and knowledge necessary to pass an exam that bears little resemblance to the actual practice of law.”

During her time at The Colleges of Law, Gardina has been a visionary who is always striving to reimagine the teaching of law. She is a member of the California Attorney Practice Analysis Working Group, which conducted a job analysis study of the legal profession for the State Bar of California. In her first year as chair of the State Bar Committee for Accredited and Registered Law Schools, the committee drafted a new set of accreditation rules with a focus on best practices in accreditation and legal instruction.

Most significantly, through Gardina’s initiative, The Colleges of Law became the first accredited law school in California to offer a hybrid J.D. program with a distinct curriculum designed to prepare today’s law students for practice in the 21st century. Gardina conceived the hybrid degree in large part to bring down the cost of a J.D., which remains the largest obstacle to law school for many. With the creation of this Blue Ribbon Committee, Gardina believes that “California has an opportunity to reimagine how it licenses new attorneys.”


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